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After making his official recording introduction courtesy of Organized Konfusion’s Fred Wesley and The J.B.’s’s sampled “Fudge Pudge,” native Brooklyn emcee, OC, née Omar Credle, was born. Roughly one year later, a second high profile cameo appearance, this time alongside Red Hot Lover Tone, Chubb Rock and, a then fairly unknown, Nas, on the raucous “Back to the Grill,” taken from MC Serch’s [of 3rd Bass fame] premiere solo outing, ‘Return of the Product,’ followed by OC’s very own Buckwild laced 1994 debut solo LP Word…Life [Wild Pitch] which spawned his, now, classic signature offering, “Time’s Up,” the latter of which would help in cementing OCizzle amongst the ranks of of Hip Hop’s most elite…
Let’s hop right into this recently unleashed 2nd single, “Good Man” — Tell me about this particular composition? How did it actually come to fruition?
It’s a self explanatory song that basically pertains to men and women both; work to be the best people you possibly can be in this lifetime, taking care of your family – stay on the straight and narrow – whatever that means to an individual. And also, looking for positives in a negative situation. All in all, work at being better human beings.
“Good Man” comes courtesy of your new solo endeavor, ‘Same Moon Same Sun‘ — Conceptually, what does that title represent both to and for you?
For me it’s simple, everyone who’s alive or not reside under the same universe in some form or fashion; we all experience the same ups and downs in life. If a comet were to propel towards the earth, we’d all be wiped out. Plus, we all share the exact same elements that make up the universe. There’s more layers to the title, but I named it purposely ‘Same Moon Same Sun’ just so people can have their own interpretation knowing we all have individual outlooks and opinions on things in general.
How does ‘Same Moon Same Sun’ either differ and/or compare to previous OCizzle efforts?
Its stages of growth. Not one album I’ve made talks about the same topics over and over; it’s growth and maturity. Plus, as along as your’e alive you’ll never stop learning. I’m definitely not the ’94 OC I am in 2017.
Switching gears here, how has not only the industry itself, but even more-so YOU, either changed and/or evolved since your whole inception into music?
They say with age comes a bit more wisdom. Well, if you go back in any history of music, the same elements still exist and will continue to as far as the industry is involved. The only thing that has evolved is the cyber wave coming into play. It’s a bit more trickier. Access to info is at your keyboards and cellphones now, but the 4080 rules still apply. It’ll always be shady, because its super corporate now.
Longevity, what do you attribute yours to?
There’s no super top secret formula. It’s just living, experiences and everyday life. That’s what attributes to my longevity. And, oh, a universal given gift to write. I’ve always said talent can be developed and i’m not that…writing has always been my way of life since a child; I does this at will.
On a more serious note, are you happy with the current state of Hip Hop? And, even more specifically, where exactly do you “fit in” when it comes to today’s current/trending sound-scape?
I’m happy with what I do. As far as the state of the game, it is what it is. Everything goes in cycles. It’s the Yin and Yang effect I contribute exactly what I am supposed to. It’s in my make up as an artist. Sometimes someone will say, “Are you a rapper or (do) you rap?” And I respond to ’em with, “I haven’t rapped since I signed my first record deal. That’s when I became professional,” but their understanding is if you’re not this huge pop star and selling millions of records or on TV or radio everyday, that you’re not…but it’s not their fault, they’re ignorant to the business people. (They) think they know, yet they really have no clue. The thing is, if you know or you’re familiar with what I do musically, you’ll know I’ve never tried to fit in with whats trendy. I’ve always followed my own nose; lyrically and sonically.
Do you have any other outside/additional aspirations, maybe even completely away from entertainment?
Writing books are an aspiration of mine. It’s something that’s close to becoming a reality. I’ve seen quite a few things in my life, and music gave me an opportunity to see the world…so it might be a bit difficult not to include that journey in writing a book. It’s all intertwined in my life since I can remember. My mom was involved in the biz to a degree as a lead singer for a group. She just didn’t pursue it the way I did. I have a nephew out in Atlanta who’s in a group and a helluva singer, which skipped me (but) passed onto him. So I look forward to (him) going twenty times further than I have.
What has been your greatest achievement(s) so far?
In my eyes, I have none. When I’m not around anymore and the topic of Hip Hop comes up, if I’m even considered in the conversation will mean that something I did musically stood the test of time. That’s an achievement I’d love to witness before my afterlife. To know I’ve touched people with my music 20,30,40 years from now, hopefully.
One track of yours that you think defines you and why?
I’ve always felt that if one song defines me, only means that I was a one hit wonder. My body of work up to this point defines me from ’94 to 2017, that’s a helluva run!
Your collabo projects have been quite stellar; particularly 20-12’s ‘Trophies’ with Apollo Brown, which happens to be one of my favorite albums to date — That said, I understand your next joint outing is said to be ‘Perestroika’ with Apathy — What all can you reveal and/or divulge about said opus at this particular point in time?
The project with Ap is conceptually captivating from beginning to end. The plan is to pull the trigger on it somewhere after the ‘Same Moon Same Sun’ joint is out. If it picks up steam, then we’re gonna hold off until it’s winding down…but I don’t plan on letting people breathe for the next 2 years, but, yeah, that’s the scheme. To release it a lil bit after my project, so the two won’t confuse anyone.
Lastly, last year saw the release of the ‘D.I.T.C. Sessions’ compilation, so with that being said what all exactly do you all have in store throughout 2017 and beyond?
A follow up to the DITC joint, a DITC tour including Joe…projects from Ness, Diamond, Buck and Ogee, just stay busy.
Is there anything I left out, or just plain forgot to mention?
Um…I dunno did you? *OC chuckles* There’s two more phases to ‘Same Moon Same Sun’ to follow up throughout the course of 2017, and hopefully when they’re released it’ll make sense to the people who have the first of the three.
Any “closing” thought(s) for our readers?
Thank you brother, Fish’N’Grits, for taking time to bless me with the opp for an interview, and thanks to the supporters who still show me love. Ain’t no words that can describe the feeling of still being able to catch people’s attention with my music…it’s one of the reasons why I still do it.
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